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Really struggling to get through work load on my own and still taking work on lol. Looking at a two man setup next year. 

How much should I pay staff member? 

Employed or self employed? 

Any tips or advice? Cheers 

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RWCleaning

I might take on someone one day, but I’m in no rush and will pro long it as long as possible. But if i was going to take on someone this year hypothetically, I’d employ them on a temporary contract of 8 weeks at say £8.50ph, If we get on & goes well then a new proper contract at £10ph, 4 days a week. Proper contract with terms & conditions, sick pay holiday pay, tax sorted etc. (When I do employ eventually employ I’m only gonna offer a 4 day contract as it allows for a day of bad weather or other unforeseen circumstances, plus gives me a bit of flexibility too) Obviously hourly pay will differ on where you’re based in the country. I also like the idea of a small bonus scheme, but not sure what yet.
 

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My advice put up prices so you lose a bit of work then you will get more proffit less hours ide never take any one on sod that unless they were self employed and sub contract off me then ide be very picky who i use 

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If you are struggling with your workload either as @tench0771 says hike prices, or shift from for example a 4 weekly schedule to once every 5 weeks, if you employ you will take a hit plus the cost of a 2 man system paying an employee and the hassle that goes with that either way you will have to take a hit somehow 

With recent the bank holidays of late plus high winds and now rain I keep getting knocked back and some jobs week after week are taking 5 weeks to get around also if my rounds keep on growing as they are I will eventually shift to a 5 weekly rota, I will take a hit money wise but it will be so much easier to manage my rounds instead of working flat out without much of break at times as I will have 80-100 jobs to do a week instead of a 100+ 

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On 04/06/2020 at 16:47, paul1 said:

Really struggling to get through work load on my own and still taking work on lol. Looking at a two man setup next year. 

How much should I pay staff member? 

Employed or self employed? 

Any tips or advice? Cheers 

I employ somebody and wouldn't have it any other way.

Yes it can be a hassel at times but overall works out ok.

I agree with what was said, start with £8.50 ph for a training period of 1 or 2 months with the promise of a good wage rise after that.

This gives you plenty of time to suss people out.

When they start explaine there might be the odd day you get rained off and you only get paid for the hours you do.

Can honestly say never had time off for windy days.

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1 hour ago, Algie said:

Can honestly say never had time off for windy days.

Simply not possible to safely clean windows or to a good standard in 25-40mph+ winds or stronger gusts I have been cleaning just over 20 years and there is limit to what is possible the other week it was around 30mph winds with stronger gusts up to 50mph pure madness to be cleaning in such weather with 💩 blowing around 

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My work is commercial so im probably doing insides if its too bad, its just i cant  honestly remember having a day off because of the wind

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42 minutes ago, Iron Giant said:

Simply not possible to safely clean windows or to a good standard in 25-40mph+ winds or stronger gusts I have been cleaning just over 20 years and there is limit to what is possible the other week it was around 30mph winds with stronger gusts up to 50mph pure madness to be cleaning in such weather with 💩 blowing around 

Was thinking this the other day when I called it a day after a couple of houses due to the wind. All the debris blowing around will just stick to the newly cleaned glass the moment you stop rinsing.

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2 hours ago, Iron Giant said:

Simply not possible to safely clean windows or to a good standard in 25-40mph+ winds or stronger gusts I have been cleaning just over 20 years and there is limit to what is possible the other week it was around 30mph winds with stronger gusts up to 50mph pure madness to be cleaning in such weather with 💩 blowing around 

We are on the coast and loose more days off due to high winds than rain , you can work in rain but not strong winds .

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3 hours ago, Algie said:

I employ somebody and wouldn't have it any other way.

Yes it can be a hassel at times but overall works out ok.

I agree with what was said, start with £8.50 ph for a training period of 1 or 2 months with the promise of a good wage rise after that.

This gives you plenty of time to suss people out.

When they start explaine there might be the odd day you get rained off and you only get paid for the hours you do.

Can honestly say never had time off for windy days.

Thanks how do you employ them then on a zero hour contract or other way? Do You have to pay pensions. And. Stuff? Cheers 

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Cleanteam South west
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you will find it hard to employ some one on a zero hour contract, it will screw any benefits up if the claim say Tax credits. you have to offer a pension by law, and its up to them if they will want to have one. You then have to put in an amount depending on how much they are paying in. The real killer for me is the 5.5 weeks holiday you have to pay...... sick pay is not a problem unless they are on long term sick, any time after 7 days then you pay for that. 

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34 minutes ago, paul1 said:

Thanks how do you employ them then on a zero hour contract or other way? Do You have to pay pensions. And. Stuff? Cheers 

Yes pay pension,  holiday pay and sick pay.

Not a zero hours contract but can only work when weather permits, same as bricklayers, roofers ect ect 

TBH its not that often we get rained off and i alway try to offer Saturday work if they really want to make the time up.

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27 minutes ago, tench0771 said:

I work on coast high winds mean your in trouble eastly winds are a kilker 🤦‍♂️😬🙈

I live in Coventry,  the furthest city from the sea lol

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9 hours ago, Algie said:

My work is commercial so im probably doing insides if its too bad, its just i cant  honestly remember having a day off because of the wind

Fair do's if you're commercial it's a case of carry on regardless no matter what the weather there must be a lot of tall buildings reducing the effect of the wind as well 😃

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2 hours ago, Iron Giant said:

Fair do's if you're commercial it's a case of carry on regardless no matter what the weather there must be a lot of tall buildings reducing the effect of the wind as well 😃

Funny you should say about tall buildings because i have a job in the middle of nowhere and the wind is really bad there, no protection what soever.

Think it makes a big difference when your in a built up city.

Finally something good about living in Coventry  lol

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The higher you go the stronger the winds get. Also a lot of high buildings causes wind tunnels that make 10mph ground floor winds unmanageable at 50'

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