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Anyway it's all cr@p.

Not really followed football for years now as have always been more into rugby both playing and watching.. not a bunch of overpaid softies lol.

Money has ruined football as the years have gone by.

Been watching a bit on youtube to ease the boredom last week.

The south africans have some awesome players.

Bakkies Botha but he has retired but his replacement Eben Etzebeth is a beast also.

They know how to go for it.

I don't know a South African who doesn't live for rugby.. maybe @spruce does also?

 
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Anyway it's all cr@p.

Not really followed football for years now as have always been more into rugby both playing and watching.. not a bunch of overpaid softies lol.

Money has ruined football as the years have gone by.

Been watching a bit on youtube to ease the boredom last week.

The south africans have some awesome players.

Bakkies Botha but he has retired but his replacement Eben Etzebeth is a beast also.

They know how to go for it.

I don't know a South African who doesn't live for rugby.. maybe @spruce does also?
Fair enough. I’ve tried getting into rugby, it’s ok, I’ll watch international’s but doesn’t get me excited.

It is a funny game, if aliens came to this planet to see if there’s any intelligent life forms, and they saw a scrum happening in a match where a group of big blokes are trying to push another group of big blokes, with some smaller men waiting behind them to see which one group pushes the other lot further and then take the ball and turn with it, the aliens would laugh & get back in their ship & fly away. ?

 
Fair enough. I’ve tried getting into rugby, it’s ok, I’ll watch international’s but doesn’t get me excited.

It is a funny game, if aliens came to this planet to see if there’s any intelligent life forms, and they saw a scrum happening in a match where a group of big blokes are trying to push another group of big blokes, with some smaller men waiting behind them to see which one group pushes the other lot further and then take the ball and turn with it, the aliens would laugh & get back in their ship & fly away. ?
It was invented before football and football was made from rugby.. 

I know what you mean though my wife watches me and my son (well mostly my son now I'm getting old lol) and has no idea what's going on even though she's seen it live at Twickenham and wembley a few times also and watches it with me on tv. And watched me play since we met when I was 21.. 45 now. 

All she understands is if it goes over the line we have scored and then get more points if it's converted.

 
I love the physicality of it.

Used to have anger issues when I was young but rugby helps with that as you can get it out on the pitch.

This is my favourite player at the moment.

6'8" monster.




 
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4 minutes ago, Dave B said:

I love the physicality of it.

Used to have anger issues when I was young but rugby helps with that as you can get it out on the pitch.

This is my favourite player at the moment.

6'8" monster.


I’d like to see him try swinging a slx 47 around for a whole morning 

 
Anyway it's all cr@p.

Not really followed football for years now as have always been more into rugby both playing and watching.. not a bunch of overpaid softies lol.

Money has ruined football as the years have gone by.

Been watching a bit on youtube to ease the boredom last week.

The south africans have some awesome players.

Bakkies Botha but he has retired but his replacement Eben Etzebeth is a beast also.

They know how to go for it.

I don't know a South African who doesn't live for rugby.. maybe @spruce does also?
Same old boring statements by rugby fans saying football is played by overpaid softies ?.

Theres a bit of truth to that in the premiership, but it is very rare in the lower leagues.

At Millwall we signed a player called ‘James Henry’. He ran down the wing on his debut and overreacted to a tackle. The Millwall fans in the stand he was next too let him know in no uncertain terms that it wouldn’t be tolerated by one of our own players. His face was a picture of surprise and fear. He never dived again for us. 
 

Seems to me rugby have the opposite attitude to football fans. They seem to walk around like they are carrying a length of carpet under each arm telling everyone how hard they think they are. Lol ?‍?

 
Seems to me rugby have the opposite attitude to football fans. They seem to walk around like they are carrying a length of carpet under each arm telling everyone how hard they think they are. Lol ?‍?
Anyone acting in a manner of being a trouble maker would be very quickly put in their place at a rugby match. Anyone foolish enough to call the persons bluff will very quickly find out how hard these guys are.

I drink in a pub where the so called Sunferland hooligans hang out. It's basically a few old men telling a load of coked up idiots what songs to sing. Not one of them, on their own off coke, would say boo to a goose. It really is pathetic.

 
Anyone acting in a manner of being a trouble maker would be very quickly put in their place at a rugby match. Anyone foolish enough to call the persons bluff will very quickly find out how hard these guys are.

I drink in a pub where the so called Sunferland hooligans hang out. It's basically a few old men telling a load of coked up idiots what songs to sing. Not one of them, on their own off coke, would say boo to a goose. It really is pathetic.
In the earlier days when I was involved it was hooligans v hooligans, no innocent fans were involved.

Don’t know or care about Sunderland pubs, but what I do know about, is Millwall. 
I still know some of their top boys and these aren’t coke sniffing youngsters, these are seriously scary nutters.

As for the statement ‘Anyone acting like this at a rugby match’, well I hope they would be put in there place.

Apart from the odd scurmish at certain games, it’s almost died out now anyway. I haven’t seen big rucks at football for years, which is a good thing 

 
Same old boring statements by rugby fans saying football is played by overpaid softies ?.

Theres a bit of truth to that in the premiership, but it is very rare in the lower leagues.

At Millwall we signed a player called ‘James Henry’. He ran down the wing on his debut and overreacted to a tackle. The Millwall fans in the stand he was next too let him know in no uncertain terms that it wouldn’t be tolerated by one of our own players. His face was a picture of surprise and fear. He never dived again for us. 
 

Seems to me rugby have the opposite attitude to football fans. They seem to walk around like they are carrying a length of carpet under each arm telling everyone how hard they think they are. Lol ?‍?
I do agree that lower league football is different. 

I sometimes go to warch stevenage borough with my son and it is good fun.

Premiership though are overpaid softies.

Bring back players like Stuart Pearce.

 
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I still fancy our chances, brooks back in training, and our performances against Liverpool & Chelsea were excellent. 
 

Will the season actually finish?..
Hi mate - don't tell anyone but I want all local clubs to do well, Bmth,Saints,Pomeee' (can't quite say it ?) & Brighton - soon as we went into lock down I felt sorry for Liverpool and happy for Cherries with all your injuries - Eddies a top bloke and would have been harsh it that was it and you went down...looking forwards to our rematch at your place at end of the season - hopefully we'll both be safe by then!

They will totally play to the end - only 9 games to go...too much riding on it with the knock on to lower clubs UFEA etc- they'll cut a few cups next year perhaps and extend next year's season and compress a few games into mid week etc - they'll find a way.

Right - Ruby vs Football

I've played both and firmly believe this is the decider if you've only played footie your drawn to that if you played Rugger at school or beyond you're drawn to that - because you 'understand' what the teams are trying to do..you 'live' each passage of play as if you're on the pitch - which is want makes it 'more' exciting...Personally I'm in the footie camp but can enjoy a good game of rugger - but to me football is much more free flowing/expressive - the ball is likely go in any direction at any moment and players could go in any formation at any moment - makes it more unpredictable (unless the teams are mismatched) Rugger tends to be a bit more formalistic with longer periods of possession and tends to be more about 'attrition'...

Rugby is unduly praised (I suspect mainly because of the exceptional behaviour of their fans (football's Achilles heels) - its' a brutal game with eye gouging , stamping, punching, open fights in most/lot's  of games but footie is pilloried if one single incident of much less is seen (let alone both teams at each other throats)...I think the hypocrisy is rooted in an element of jealously - footie players get paid a fortune because far more people want to watch it (because more have played it globally) Ever present phones/cameras/media now show everyone what has always gone on... players behaving badly...now we see, not just read rumours of the players in the clubs...etc.. doing what ANYONE of us would probably flirt with if we had more money than we knew what to do with, in a job were you exist as a part of a 'team' which are often best mates and socialise together (to protect themselves from social media wolves) Yes they drive fancy cars and have £££ at ages which are not really seen in wider society, often in foreign countries with little no guiding family around them (which is how hey have lived since mid teens likely) which means they do stupid things just like EVERYONE on here when they were teen early twenty's etc...(come on you know you did ? ) except they're antics end up on the news/front/back pages...viva la sport in all it's flavours! 

 
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I really don’t think this should be Rugby v Football. Two completely different sports. 
All each to their own etc.

I cannot wait to get back to the den. Saturdays without football and the pub are utterly boring in my opinion ??‍?

 
Agree - nothing like the Saturday morning buildup before THE game... :iagree:

Rugby v Football. Two completely different sports.
Think that genie is already of out of the bottle but agree... I'm a fan of most sports even American Football...(again helps if you have played it)  ?⚽?⛳?  ?

 
I played american football a bit when I was young and also like that.

More concussions in american football as the helmets give you a false sense of security and people tend to go in for tackles head first as opposed to rugby tackles.

 
I played american football a bit when I was young and also like that.

More concussions in american football as the helmets give you a false sense of security and people tend to go in for tackles head first as opposed to rugby tackles.
When my son last came home from university, we were channel hopping and American ‘football’ was on, so we thought we would give it a go.

We lasted around 15 minutes. It just didn’t ‘flow’, constantly stopping all the time. But, as we know, each to their own ??‍?

 
Yeh I didn’t quite get into American football, but I enjoy a Good game of tennis. Nadal v Federer in 2008 is one of the best live sports things I’ve ever seen! The quality was unbelievable in that match.

I following boxing without really ever watching a fight live, but the build up to matches is turning a bit like wwe now, it’s getting really cringy. 

 
When my son last came home from university, we were channel hopping and American ‘football’ was on, so we thought we would give it a go.

We lasted around 15 minutes. It just didn’t ‘flow’, constantly stopping all the time. But, as we know, each to their own ??‍?
The games are so long as well. 4-5 hours. Once in a while yes but id certainly get bored if i watched it too often

 
Agreed I'm a fair weather American Football fan (read pretty much 'super bowl') - do like the way they can spray the ball from nowhere to 'anywhere' on the pitch - I played it at school so that's probably stimulated my affinity.

Can't beat the beautiful game though!

Recently watched that documentary on Maradona ("Deigo Maradona") by Asif ? the Academy Award and BAFTA-winning team behind 'Senna' and 'Amy', the film was constructed from over 500 hours of never-before-seen footage from Maradona's personal archive... felt sorry for the git after watching it ?

 
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