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Oddly enough insurance isn’t a requirement elsewhere, just basic common sense!




You must have a lower amoint of idiots where you live. People would fall over a match stick where I am. ?  I wouldn’t want to risk not having public liability insurance. Especially for £10 a month. 

 
a crb check? so if you have a record you cant even employ yourself in scotland? no wonder people chose the life of benefits!°
I’ve argued this before, absolute joke. The only way it’s fair is if they are only declining applications when people have violent or sexual offences where you pose a risk to the general public. Let’s be honest we are attending people’s homes so that would be understandable but if the launch this across the entire country a lot of lads who made mistakes a long time ago will end up on the dole!

 
I expect it’s like you said, just to keep the violent and sex offenders away from people’s homes. I expect there is only limitations if you’re deemed has high risk I.e on the sex offenders register.

The license is unlikely to come along unless a windy somewhere in the country makes a complete **** up and kills someone and has no insurance, however much of a good idea it is.


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Ime all for this licensing providing it is actually enforced by someone and not just another cash cow for some govemental department , I think it would get rid of the cash in hand brigade and the summer cleaners and beer money dole claimers but as I say it’s only viable if someone is actively enforcing it , maybe you could be given a licence number that you have to put on flyers invoices ,vans , that people can clearly see that you are ligit, also make it an offence for the public to use cleaners that are not registered , this is the only way to stamp out the rogue traders in the window cleaning industry who can undercut those of us that do operate legitimate buisness it would then make it a level playing field for us 

 
I expect it’s like you said, just to keep the violent and sex offenders away from people’s homes. I expect there is only limitations if you’re deemed has high risk I.e on the sex offenders register.

The license is unlikely to come along unless a windy somewhere in the country makes a complete **** up and kills someone and has no insurance, however much of a good idea it is.
It already exists in Scotland mate. Just a matter of time.

Ime all for this licensing providing it is actually enforced by someone and not just another cash cow for some govemental department , I think it would get rid of the cash in hand brigade and the summer cleaners and beer money dole claimers but as I say it’s only viable if someone is actively enforcing it , maybe you could be given a licence number that you have to put on flyers invoices ,vans , that people can clearly see that you are ligit, also make it an offence for the public to use cleaners that are not registered , this is the only way to stamp out the rogue traders in the window cleaning industry who can undercut those of us that do operate legitimate buisness it would then make it a level playing field for us 
It's fine by me aside from being an unwanted expense. Someone will enforce it if there is money in it for the local councils. The problem comes after a few years. Just like your council tax the price will go up and up and the service you get will remain the same, that is how councils work. Then imagine your ex wife worked in the department that issued licences, just one example but it could be anyone.

I have a mate who was an RE teacher. At one point he trained to be a catholic priest. Genuinely one of the kindest people you could wish to meet, does a shed ton of work for charity etc. When he first got his job he was suspended under investigation because some busy body at the top wanted to look into a caution he got when he was 17 for fighting (This had already been addressed when he applied for the job) He was left on suspension with no sign of an actual investigation. He moved to a different county and worked there for years until the same woman moved over to cover his area. He quit and became a funeral director of all things.

No one should have this sort of power over peoples lives. In the states you need a licence for everything and if you have a criminal record they refuse you the licence. A licence that is linked to a register where information on you such as unspent convictions, who your PL is with and how long you have been trading would be a good idea, then if the customer wants to go and look you up they can. This would easily weed out serious criminals as they wouldn't want that information publicly available about them!

I have read from some of the Scottish lads on here that it is enforced. They stop cars with ladders and see what people are up to etc.

 
Does anyone seriously know of an incident like this involving windies? I.e. where they end up committing a crime against their custies!
Those kinds of things would all be reported under one thing, no record would be made of what trade the person was or claimed to be so it would be difficult to ever get official stats.

I know some sorry stories of windies. I have heard quite a few stories of them billing customers without actually turning up. Coming back every week to elderly vulnerable people in order to keep taking money from them. A quick Google search brought this up...

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/likeable-burglar-who-pretended-to-be-window-cleaner-before-stealing-cash-jailed-10165259.html

 
They don't have enough resources to enforce it. Look at Road Tax/MOT/Insurance, there's a lot of people who don't pay them... Police don't even look at road tax anymore it's been handballed to the DVLA to enforce.. 

 
  • If over 18 at the time of the offence, a conviction will be filtered 11 years after the date of the conviction, and a caution 6 years after the date of the caution, provided that the applicant did not go to prison, has not committed any other offence and the offence was not of a violent or sexual nature.
  • If under 18 at the time of the offence, a conviction will be filtered 5.5 years after the date of the conviction, and a caution 2 years after the date of the caution, provided that the applicant did not go to prison, has not committed any other offence and the offence was not of a violent or sexual nature.

    I would think anyone who had made mistakes when they were young and daft will be fine, No doubt a few of us have made mistakes but licensing of window cleaning will just be a cash cow for local councils 
 
  • If over 18 at the time of the offence, a conviction will be filtered 11 years after the date of the conviction, and a caution 6 years after the date of the caution, provided that the applicant did not go to prison, has not committed any other offence and the offence was not of a violent or sexual nature.
  • If under 18 at the time of the offence, a conviction will be filtered 5.5 years after the date of the conviction, and a caution 2 years after the date of the caution, provided that the applicant did not go to prison, has not committed any other offence and the offence was not of a violent or sexual nature.

    I would think anyone who had made mistakes when they were young and daft will be fine, No doubt a few of us have made mistakes but licensing of window cleaning will just be a cash cow for local councils 
It's just not right that someone has that power over your life mate! I agree the majority of cases you would be fine but there is always a jobsworth somewhere!

 
It's just not right that someone has that power over your life mate! I agree the majority of cases you would be fine but there is always a jobsworth somewhere!
I hear what you are saying and I am sure things have changed over the years, I remember my first CRB as it was previously known which was done for a school contract I spoke to the Head teacher and he told me some of of the teacher's had done worse in the past that was over 10 years ago and I still have the contract.


County Durham Lad

 
I hear what you are saying and I am sure things have changed over the years, I remember my first CRB as it was previously known which was done for a school contract I spoke to the Head teacher and he told me some of of the teacher's had done worse in the past that was over 10 years ago and I still have the contract.


County Durham Lad
 
I just don't like government control mate. I don't like Council tax, the TV licence, The fee's you pay for passport renewal, stamp duty, road tax.... All of us low level schmucks pay these ridiculous taxes and get very little if anything for our money! These schemes should all be scrapped and they should make up the deficit by chasing the large companies that aren't paying tax! 

 
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