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Solar Panel Cleaning Training Course To Be Held 11th July 2015

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hahhahaaaaaa

I learnt window cleaning from a mate,taught the rest me self,learnt wfp by just doin it on own house

I damned if I gun pay someone to teach me to **** in the woods

been there n done that.ps bears dint like it

I cleanes over 500 so don't need a tutor

would be beneficial of a newby who a leaner,nervous,y so much tho £££

what next,window cleaning apprentice

NO ONE QUOTE ME ON THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
hahhahaaaaaaI learnt window cleaning from a mate,taught the rest me self,learnt wfp by just doin it on own house

I damned if I gun pay someone to teach me to **** in the woods

been there n done that.ps bears dint like it

I cleanes over 500 so don't need a tutor

would be beneficial of a newby who a leaner,nervous,y so much tho £££

what next,window cleaning apprentice

NO ONE QUOTE ME ON THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cleaning just over 500 makes you a complete novice @tattoosnhooves . You'd still learn a lot from the course.

We had one guy attend who had cleaned over 20,000, but he realised he had been exposing his staff to the risk of electrocution all along and has put in safety measures that he learned on our course to prevent electrocution. He came with the idea he did not know it all and was proved to be right.

We do not claim to know everything, but it's probably fair to say we know more than most. We continue to learn too though. The training day is an accelerated path to knowledge that has taken us years to gain.

It's great value for those who are looking to break into the solar cleaning industry in a bigger way than they are currently.

 
Steve why do you always go on about electrocution? All you do is wear rubber gloves? Why pay £250 to be told that?

I can guarantee your staff don't do anything different to everyone else.

 
I have to do the course, rubber gloves of not.

If I don't, a local competitor will and that's not good for business.

Not sure how you can chat about rubber gloves or ppe all day either. There's gonna be more. I'm bound to comeback from the training day more knowledgable on the subject than before.

On the subject of electrocution, I looked at some panels on Monday, one bank weren't working. I asked why and the farmer said 'rats have bitten through the cables'.........

 
Solar panels continue to produce dc current in daylight hours cabled up or not so unless you've seen the faulty cables you would not know just by looking at the solar panels if there is a fault or not. You can use a thermal imagine camera and other methods/tool to determine if a panel has become faulty. However the way I see it this then falls into the realms of qualified electricians that are trained in solar panel installs, maintenance and inspection.

Regarding solar panel cleaning training by solar Steve the way he has explained in previous posts it's only open to people that Steve wants on the course to sub contract for him (one per postcode area). Therefore strings are attached as is not straight forward as saying I want to be trained in solar panel cleaning.

I do understand why solar Steve wants’ subs to cover the whole of the UK for him and have some sort of training but this may not seems a good deal percentage/profit wise for the sub contractor to take on. Therefore whoever is thinking on going on his training course needs to think seriously if they will benefit enough profit wise to be involved or not.

I would like to hear honest feedback from subs that take on large projects for him instead of just feedback from people attending what is in affect is an induction sub contractor training course that they have to pay for.

 
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I have to do the course, rubber gloves of not.If I don't, a local competitor will and that's not good for business.

Not sure how you can chat about rubber gloves or ppe all day either. There's gonna be more. I'm bound to comeback from the training day more knowledgable on the subject than before.

On the subject of electrocution, I looked at some panels on Monday, one bank weren't working. I asked why and the farmer said 'rats have bitten through the cables'.........
I don't go on about it all day mate,

And going on Steves course will not help you recognise if rats have chewed wires.

By all means get sub contract work off him, but the course has no accredition at all. Your laying for something that's not recognised and has no value. Pointless springs to mind.

 
You could check if a panel is faulty with a voltmeter? If you have a male or female connecter with bare ends, you could plug this into the panel in question and check open circuit voltage.

Most banks of panels have their own inverter (in my experience) this can often show if a system isn't running right.

I've only done one small 4kw job for Solar Steve. If I had a steady supply of similar jobs from clean solar solutions, I'd be very happy.

 
You'lL never make good money being a subby, your list lining another mans pockets.

Competition is good, why not set up your own company and rival Steve.

 
but it is work ur not going to get anyway boys
and he isnt stopping you getting your own work

every bit helps imo
Well if Steve can get it, then so can anyone else, that's all I'm saying. There's no official certificate or qualification, so anyone can get the work if they go out and get it.

Personally I just wouldn't want to be advertising someone else's company and filling his pockets whilst I'm at it.

 
Not sure where £3 a panel comes into it. I wouldn't charge that much regardless of subbing. Unless perhaps there were 16 panels and I had to hire powered access to do the job.

Personally, I have had to make a decision as to either pitch myself against clean solar solutions ( my business is 'solar panel cleaning, hence SPC) or work with him. After a lot of thought, and I like thinking, I decided that taking this training day and securing work via locally

 
Sorry, big fingers.

Anyways, I decided it's the right decision. I'm not going to bore you with how I arrived at it though.

 
Not sure where £3 a panel comes into it. I wouldn't charge that much regardless of subbing. Unless perhaps there were 16 panels and I had to hire powered access to do the job.
Personally, I have had to make a decision as to either pitch myself against clean solar solutions ( my business is 'solar panel cleaning, hence SPC) or work with him. After a lot of thought, and I like thinking, I decided that taking this training day and securing work via locally
You charge less than £3 per panel then?

 
Yup. I've never charged as much as that. No need. If it was an hours drive away though.....

If someone has 200 panels (50kw) and you ask for £600 they will piss themselves with laughter.

How dirty are they? How much of a saving will be made by cleaning? It's not an aesthetic thing like windows. Panels are there to make money, apart from the odd hippy.

 
Yup. I've never charged as much as that. No need. If it was an hours drive away though.....If someone has 200 panels (50kw) and you ask for £600 they will piss themselves with laughter.

How dirty are they? How much of a saving will be made by cleaning? It's not an aesthetic thing like windows. Panels are there to make money, apart from the odd hippy.
And how long does it take to clean a panel compared to a window of the same size and do you charge similarly for windows and panels? Are panels not harder to clean than a window of similar size and therefore take longer?

 
I price on time. How dirty are the panels/windows. What is access like? How far is travelling(can it be incorporated into a days work? )

Residential and commercial work is quite different.

Sometimes they are quicker than windows, often longer too.

 
Steve why do you always go on about electrocution? All you do is wear rubber gloves? Why pay £250 to be told that?
I can guarantee your staff don't do anything different to everyone else.
@Jake All of your questions are answered on the course. How serious are you about incorporating solar panel cleaning into your business? If you are serious, come along. It is worth every penny.

If you are not serious about it, please stop bashing my business idea. You will not succeed in turning me or other people off.

I'm not sure how you can GUARANTEE we don't do anything different from anyone else. I can't guarantee that either. But I do know that from the broad spectrum of companies we had at the last training day, NO ONE had in place the PPE measures that we do. EVERY SINGLE PERSON in the room wrote down what PPE they needed and NO ONE had what we have. From that, I will guess that we do do things differently.

One guy came to me privately at lunch and said he felt sick inside learning what he had learned, knowing that his staff had cleaned about 50,000 solar panels between them and were at risk of serious electrocution for each one of them. He has since ordered all necessary PPE and has had jobs from us that have paid for his course.

He spent nearly £500 with us. Was the training value to him? Absolutely. I GUARANTEE it.

 
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Solar panels continue to produce dc current in daylight hours cabled up or not so unless you've seen the faulty cables you would not know just by looking at the solar panels if there is a fault or not. You can use a thermal imagine camera and other methods/tool to determine if a panel has become faulty. However the way I see it this then falls into the realms of qualified electricians that are trained in solar panel installs, maintenance and inspection.

Regarding solar panel cleaning training by solar Steve the way he has explained in previous posts it's only open to people that Steve wants on the course to sub contract for him (one per postcode area). Therefore strings are attached as is not straight forward as saying I want to be trained in solar panel cleaning.

I do understand why solar Steve wants’ subs to cover the whole of the UK for him and have some sort of training but this may not seems a good deal percentage/profit wise for the sub contractor to take on. Therefore whoever is thinking on going on his training course needs to think seriously if they will benefit enough profit wise to be involved or not.

I would like to hear honest feedback from subs that take on large projects for him instead of just feedback from people attending what is in affect is an induction sub contractor training course that they have to pay for.
@Smurf on the training day, I knew there would be sceptics. I have been on brand new training days, at least to me they were, and I sat there thinking "Yeah, this all sounds great, but am I going to make any money?"

For this reason, I asked one of my current subcontractors to have 15 mins to talk about their experience with us. I was brave because I did not know what he was going to say until he stood at the front to tell his story. I was confident enough to do that and also open it up to a question and answer with Tony too so that other guys in the room could get his honest answers without my interference.

Tony is based in Croydon and gave a very honest appraisal of things. Part of what he said was the money he earns on a bad day doing our solar work equates to a good day on windows. A good day on solar is more than he could ever make on windows. This guy has been window cleaning for over 30 years, so knows how to make money from window cleaning.

For anyone wondering if Tony is a one-off, Michael, our Derby subcontractor will be giving his opinion in the same fashion on the next training day on July 11th.

 
I don't go on about it all day mate,
And going on Steves course will not help you recognise if rats have chewed wires.

By all means get sub contract work off him, but the course has no accredition at all. Your laying for something that's not recognised and has no value. Pointless springs to mind.
For someone who's not attended the course, so seem to know an awful lot about what it does and doesn't offer.

It's like saying you are an expert on the Bible and when asked how many times you've read it and you say never, you seem a little foolish.

 
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