Which wfp to buy

[cheapncheerful]

i just negotiating on the other post...dont seem to be getting anywhere though....:rofl:

 

[tench0771]

Buy an SLX-22 cnc. The best buy you will ever make /emoticons/wink.png

rolleyes::thumbsdown:/emoticons/tongue.png/emoticons/biggrin.png)=china classic:hiding::rofl:

 

[Tuffers]

rolleyes::thumbsdown:/emoticons/tongue.png/emoticons/biggrin.png)=china classic:hiding::rofl:

Boo

 

[cheapncheerful]

so buy a china classic and stick an slx sticker on it..oops this is typed on a dell laptop with the apple logo on it...do hope alex doesnt find this post...

 

[WWC]

I think i would plump for the ariel hybrid with boar hair in the centre.

The hybrid is an excellent everyday brush. The speed of a maintenance brush with a bit of cleaning guts to get rid of the hard to shift bits.

Though, Gardiner have recently brought out their own hybrid brush. They use nylon as their center bristles. It's an Extreme brush and is also very good at scrubbing with speed. The best Gardiner brush I have tried. It is lighter than Tecbuk but also feels a bit softer and like it has less substance than the Tecbuk.

IMO both are excellent maintenance brushes.

 

[Shiny]

Buy an SLX-22 cnc. The best buy you will ever make /emoticons/wink.png

Yep got mine 3 wks ago, brilliant piece of kit dont know how I ve coped the past 3 years without the SLX 22 just a very good all round every day use pole... Will be defiantly using gardener equipment in the future

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[cheapncheerful]

i had better get saving...xmas time soon...dear father xmas..:rofl: i have been a very good boy...:devil: well most of the time...

 

[Smurf]

I suppose it could work don't you?/emoticons/biggrin.png

 

[Tuffers]

I suppose it could work don't you?/emoticons/biggrin.png

Good god

 

[Richard]

Hahaha me too bud, but i would like a tecbuk but i think they are hellishly expensive, you can nearly get 2 extreme's for the same price

You probably can buy 2 slower brushes cheaper than the price of just one Tecbuk brush, Keir. Or you could by I slower brush and save yourself £20 pounds or so. I make products; if you look a little closer, other companies just like to make a brand name for them selves and never really bother to get the product right.

You will lose out when working with slower brushes, no question about that. The difference in cleaning speed between brushes can easily be measured in money, and it’s a lot more than £20, everyday day you go window cleaning, a lot more…..

The Tecbuk Hybrid brush is a good choice Keir, and it is the only genuinely fast Hybrid window cleaning brush on the market, has been since it was released.

The Tecbuk Hybrid might not be for you though; you can’t compare the Tecbuk brushes with the extreme brush as its one of the slowest brushes used for window cleaning. Tecbuk brushes are about speed of cleaning and maximising your time for earnings, something you may not had considered before, because of being bombarded with marketing & branding nonsense.

Richard

 

[Tuffers]

The Tecbuk Hybrid might not be for you though; you can’t compare the Tecbuk brushes with the extreme brush as its one of the slowest brushes used for window cleaning. Tecbuk brushes are about speed of cleaning and maximising your time for earnings, something you may not had considered before, because of being bombarded with marketing & branding nonsense.

Richard

The extreme is one of the slowest brushes used for window cleaning? Tell me that's not what you just said.

 

[Smurf]

I'm going to keep out of this one @Tuffers as I'm sure @Alex Gardiner would like to say something now /emoticons/biggrin.png

 

[Smurf]

That has got to be a keeper Richard. Bless /emoticons/biggrin.png

You probably can buy 2 slower brushes cheaper than the price of just one Tecbuk brush, Keir. Or you could by I slower brush and save yourself £20 pounds or so. I make products; if you look a little closer, other companies just like to make a brand name for them selves and never really bother to get the product right.

You will lose out when working with slower brushes, no question about that. The difference in cleaning speed between brushes can easily be measured in money, and it’s a lot more than £20, everyday day you go window cleaning, a lot more…..

The Tecbuk Hybrid brush is a good choice Keir, and it is the only genuinely fast Hybrid window cleaning brush on the market, has been since it was released.

The Tecbuk Hybrid might not be for you though; you can’t compare the Tecbuk brushes with the extreme brush as its one of the slowest brushes used for window cleaning. Tecbuk brushes are about speed of cleaning and maximising your time for earnings, something you may not had considered before, because of being bombarded with marketing & branding nonsense.

Richard

 

[WWC]

you can’t compare the Tecbuk brushes with the extreme brush as its one of the slowest brushes used for window cleaning.

I have both a Tecbuk Hybrid and an extreme Hybrid and I can compare them as I am interested in speed of cleaning, and in particular, brushes that can clean quickly and still get the hard to remove stuff off. I do mostly 8 week cleans, so it is imperative to me that a brush gets baked on dirt and bird poo off quick and easily.

Yes I do like your hybrid brushes - they are excellent, but so is the Gardiner Hybrid. Both clean well, and clean quickly.

The brushes that I am comparing are:

Tecbuk Aerial Hybrid

http://www.tecbuk.com/products/duel-trim-hybrid-brush-red-polyester-with-boars-hair-in-centre-1

Gardiner Hybrid Extreme

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/The-Super-Lite--Xtreme-Soft-Flocked-Hybrid-FLHY.html

 

[tench0771]

ide try a super lite hibrid but im not a extreem fan i like a bit of waight helps close them stiff openers

 

[Richard]

The extreme is one of the slowest brushes used for window cleaning? Tell me that's not what you just said.

It is slow in use Tuffers, the brush just doesn’t have enough cleaning bristles; the spread on the glass is nowhere near good enough, each pass of the brush is a wasted effort. Basically it just very slow in use, compared to faster brushes.

How many people try brushes like these and no longer use them, why did they try it in the first place, because of marketing & branding. These types of brushes have little value. Companies are more interested in making a brand and not products, that’s the norm these days, and people do fall for the marketing.

Look at the Tecbuk brushes, 1st brush with a window cleaning scraper, 1st brush with reusable interchange cost effective brush heads, and real differences in bristle use. The list goes on, but my point is it’s a product, and not only a brand. I wasn’t the first to make window cleaning brushes was I? Why did I have to be the first with so many aspect about wfp brushes, proves my point, if you able to ignore the influence of marketing and branding for just a minute, its obviouse you have been sold

Richard

 

[cheapncheerful]

oh...theres more to this wfp than meets the eye....i cant spend anymore right now...she will kill me.../emoticons/biggrin.png

 

[spruce]

It is slow in use Tuffers, the brush just doesn’t have enough cleaning bristles; the spread on the glass is nowhere near good enough, each pass of the brush is a wasted effort. Basically it just very slow in use, compared to faster brushes.

How many people try brushes like these and no longer use them, why did they try it in the first place, because of marketing & branding. These types of brushes have little value. Companies are more interested in making a brand and not products, that’s the norm these days, and people do fall for the marketing.

Look at the Tecbuk brushes, 1st brush with a window cleaning scraper, 1st brush with reusable interchange cost effective brush heads, and real differences in bristle use. The list goes on, but my point is it’s a product, and not only a brand. I wasn’t the first to make window cleaning brushes was I? Why did I have to be the first with so many aspect about wfp brushes, proves my point, if you able to ignore the influence of marketing and branding for just a minute, its obviouse you have been sold

Richard

Richard has been beating this drum ever since he started making his DIY brushes.

His view is that the more bristles the greater the cleaning power. Seems logical, but there is never any actual proof offered.

Perry Tait once did a video on an experiment he did to decide how many passes were required with a brush (he used a Vikan) to clean windows properly. Richard has done nothing like this.

The first Aerial brush I bought certainly didn't live up to his "one past no rinse" rhetoric. It was also too heavy.

I past it onto my son in law and he also complained it was too heavy.

This site is the only one I've seen Richard on. Its also a site that has a lot of newbies who are easily swayed by claims such as these as they haven't the experience to know any better. They are more gullible.

Where was Richard a few months ago when all you guys were complaining of no stock of any brushes? Did he get on here and apologise for his 'manufacturing' problems? No! In fact, a few tried to contact him and got no response.

What does he put this down to? I bet he will say that he can't keep up with demand. Will he tell you the real reason?

Richard lost credibility years ago with me, but I didn't stop me buying one of his brushes.

What happened to the carbon fibre brush stock he was going to make? Nothing as far as a few of us are aware. Why?

 

[cheapncheerful]

and thats why i like this forum...i let everyone else spend thier money trying to find the best brush and then i will jump in and buy..:rofl:

 

[RiceRocket]

What happened to the carbon fibre brush stock he was going to make? Nothing as far as a few of us are aware. Why?

He apparently made one but declared it too expensive for window cleaners with no figure given.

Incidentally Facelift are bringing a carbon brush out soon for their Phoenix.

 

[Richard]

Richard has been beating this drum ever since he started making his DIY brushes.His view is that the more bristles the greater the cleaning power. Seems logical, but there is never any actual proof offered.

Perry Tait once did a video on an experiment he did to decide how many passes were required with a brush (he used a Vikan) to clean windows properly. Richard has done nothing like this.

The first Aerial brush I bought certainly didn't live up to his "one past no rinse" rhetoric. It was also too heavy.

I past it onto my son in law and he also complained it was too heavy.

This site is the only one I've seen Richard on. Its also a site that has a lot of newbies who are easily swayed by claims such as these as they haven't the experience to know any better. They are more gullible.

Where was Richard a few months ago when all you guys were complaining of no stock of any brushes? Did he get on here and apologise for his 'manufacturing' problems? No! In fact, a few tried to contact him and got no response.

What does he put this down to? I bet he will say that he can't keep up with demand. Will he tell you the real reason?

Richard lost credibility years ago with me, but I didn't stop me buying one of his brushes.

What happened to the carbon fibre brush stock he was going to make? Nothing as far as a few of us are aware. Why?

If your own logic isn’t good enough! and you think the brush is too heavy! when most users can work fast with it and don’t think its heavy, maybe I do need to make a video. The updated version is now lighter though, if that is any help.

My customers aren’t gullible, I would say most are experienced and successful, in fact those I know and deliver to personally, are solvent, own there own house, with many having 2 or 3 houses etc. These window cleaners aren’t dummies, most are nonplus about window cleaning, but they make lot money from it, so they keep going.

As for credibility, I look to sell about 1000 brushes a year, that’s 20 per week, I often get caught out with what is in available, because I have a range of different brushes and it takes time to make some more, inevitably customers always want the one that is out of stock.

Someone told me Gardiner’s claim they sell 1000 brushes per month, maybe they do maybe they don’t – there turnover is about £344,000 on there annual report, so it is possible. But if they do sell that many brushes it does prove they are a very cheap product (as they sell many other things). No doubt you may have been told they are quality brushes, so much for credibility and who is gullible?