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MCWC

Hey everyone I'm sure thst this has been covered in other areas but can't seem to find something with direct correlation 

 

Anyway my water from the tap given me a reading of under 70tds usually 66

Im currently using a small ro system I 75gpd as I don't think my customer base Warren's buying a 500gpd system as I'm using no where near thst amount roughly 2/400 ltrs a week slowly getting more 

Anyway its taking so long to fill my barrels I mean soooooo looooooong

Is there a quicker alternative that I could use as I'm still working full time and then going out to clean windows and then having to stay up forever to refill the barrels

 

All advice welcome

Thanks in advance

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High-tower

Fill into a storage tank of some kind over night or whatever, then just pump with a submersible pump into your barrels in a few minutes.

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Part Timer

With the small amount you use and relatively low tds you should really be DI only. Especially if you're on a meter. 

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MCWC

No no meter yet in NI I'm sure it's coming though 

Would I be going through resin quickly though or for using so little would it last a while as I wouldn't want to be buying resin every other week would be cheaper to get the big ro system would it not

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Part Timer
7 hours ago, MCWC said:

No no meter yet in NI I'm sure it's coming though 

Would I be going through resin quickly though or for using so little would it last a while as I wouldn't want to be buying resin every other week would be cheaper to get the big ro system would it not

If you're only using 400 litres a week a 25kg bag of resin should last approximately 28 weeks. I'm assuming you have a decent sized DI vessel 

https://www.thecleaningwarehouse.co.uk/resin-calculator-34-w.asp

 

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ks789

Im only using 200/250 litres a week, but when I started I presumed I'd be using that much a day, so i bought the 40/21. Low water pressure so needed the booster pump too, so quite  pricey all in. Only takes a couple of hours a week to get that though.

When I started I presumed it would be as simple to get customers as it was when I'd done it 16 odd years back, but certainly was a lot harder. Even so, If I'd known I would probably still have got the 40/21 as I couldnt handle doing overnight etc to get the water.

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MCWC

I have a 25l di vessel just waiting I bought before and never used as I'm using the 75gpd ro which has a 1l di filter at the end of the filtration process

 

But if the 25l resin lasted nearly 30 weeks that's worth looking I to like 6 months worth and would it be much quicker than the current method feels like 3 hours for a 25l barrel

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mike007
On 06/08/2019 at 09:44, scottish cleaning service said:

Exactly, look at me for instance. I was laughed off this forum because I only had 20 customers. I have been going only 2yrs and never looked for any customers. I just take one day at a time because I have other odd-jobs to do. Yesterday I picked up 2 bungalows at 15 each a month. First thing I tell the customer is that I am not cheap but I am good, reliable and trustworthy, now I have 80 customers and it takes me nearly a week to get round them all. I have found the best way to get new customers is when one is out doing the job on a Saturday, that's when I get new enquires. :1f609:

I would never mention the word "cheap" in a conversation with a customer about my services, and when asked about a price i always say "it will only be £***.", or "I can do it for just £*** "

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ks789
3 minutes ago, MCWC said:

I have a 25l di vessel just waiting I bought before and never used as I'm using the 75gpd ro which has a 1l di filter at the end of the filtration process

 

But if the 25l resin lasted nearly 30 weeks that's worth looking I to like 6 months worth and would it be much quicker than the current method feels like 3 hours for a 25l barrel

Yes is prob better in your situation. As my tap tds is 530 I have to use Ro. Also remember your resin is still good when it goes up to 4 or 5, some use it even longer than that.

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mike007
On 06/08/2019 at 17:01, Tango said:

 

I've refused to quote jobs when they say they already got a windy and as I'm walking away they'll ask "how much?" - my answer is "sorry you've got a window cleaner and i'm not going to take their work!"

 

Yes I could do with the work but I don't want to have someones financial collapse on my hands. That extra £10-15 might be their kids pair of school shoes etc.

What about your financial collapse?. And have you ever thought you could be providing that customer with the service she wants that is better than the one being provided already?.

On 06/08/2019 at 17:01, Tango said:

 

I've refused to quote jobs when they say they already got a windy and as I'm walking away they'll ask "how much?" - my answer is "sorry you've got a window cleaner and i'm not going to take their work!"

 

Yes I could do with the work but I don't want to have someones financial collapse on my hands. That extra £10-15 might be their kids pair of school shoes etc.

What about your financial collapse?. And have you ever thought you could be providing that customer with the service she wants that is better than the one being provided already?.

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MCWC

OK thanks for the advice guys really appreciate it will invest in some resin and then hopefully that solves the speed issue

 

One more thing I'm getting a lot of requests for insides recently and didn't really want to do it but because of custys having to be there for cleans but because I have said I only do outsides I've lost potential customers

Would you do insides and what would the charges be I was thinking of going to buy some kit for i sides when buying the resin as I'm just starting want to get as much customers as possible but don't want to make a habit of doing insides. 

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mike007
On 20/09/2019 at 18:54, Davy G said:

Good way of putting it. Eventually the filling of the bucket will be faster than the emptying and the quality of the contents (customers) will be better. 

Good for you. 🙂👍

And the better and more established you become, the less holes

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Part Timer
18 minutes ago, MCWC said:

OK thanks for the advice guys really appreciate it will invest in some resin and then hopefully that solves the speed issue

 

One more thing I'm getting a lot of requests for insides recently and didn't really want to do it but because of custys having to be there for cleans but because I have said I only do outsides I've lost potential customers

Would you do insides and what would the charges be I was thinking of going to buy some kit for i sides when buying the resin as I'm just starting want to get as much customers as possible but don't want to make a habit of doing insides. 

I know certain people would say stick to outside only as internal work is a pita. However if you are losing work, work that will help you get established, then I personally would do it. 

When you're established you can then drop the internals. Price wise anything up to double the external price. Always insist that they clear the sills before you do them, so ask them when you turn up and do the outside first. 

DI only it will take you a few minutes to fill each of your 25l containers. 

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dmw

Inside work is a double edged sword, I do the inside of a care home every month and whist in summer it can be pretty hot and unpleasant, but last week when it was absolutely hammering it down it was quiet nice looking out at the horrible weather while I worked.

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mike007

Only internals I do is the occasional kitchen window over the sink for a few of my older customers (free of charge), 

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dazmond
7 minutes ago, mike007 said:

Only internals I do is the occasional kitchen window over the sink for a few of my older customers (free of charge), 

same.......although when i first started id clean anything......insides,gutter clearing,etc.....now i dont offer anything apart from outside window cleaning and the occasional add on job(UPVC,conny roof,solar panel cleans).....

 

ive only ever lost one job in 26 years because i refused to clean insides......and they took me back on 6 months ago after 5 years of using another window cleaner!(i still dont clean their inside windows though!)👍

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MCWC
6 minutes ago, Part Timer said:

I know certain people would say stick to outside only as internal work is a pita. However if you are losing work, work that will help you get established, then I personally would do it. 

When you're established you can then drop the internals. Price wise anything up to double the external price. Always insist that they clear the sills before you do them, so ask them when you turn up and do the outside first. 

DI only it will take you a few minutes to fill each of your 25l containers. 

Thank you part timer really appreciate your help I was thinking along those lines myself need to get some booties to cover my shoes though after doing the outside 

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wezza13

For interiors, initial cleans are double what the outside is as it tends to include scraping the glass and taking a long time on them. Semi-regular are done at price and a half of the outside windows. And oes that we do every visit are the same as the exterior price. 

 

Also, we insist that the window sills are clear or there is a charge of £1 per item.

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MCWC

I think the general consensus is take the money wherever its coming fro mat the start and then refine my services when I can afford to

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wezza13
4 minutes ago, MCWC said:

Thank you part timer really appreciate your help I was thinking along those lines myself need to get some booties to cover my shoes though after doing the outside 

 

I carry a nice, clean pair of trainers that I use for interiors.

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