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My daughter is doing some work with me now. Because I use 100 degree fans and a swivel, that’s what I’ve been training her with. Yesterday we spent some time trying fixed brush adapters, 50 degree fans and 2mm pencils. I want her to find what works best for her rather than me telling her what to use. I explained the pros and cons of each device. We also tried different flow rates. 

So far the upshot is that she prefers the swivel adapter, 100 degree fans and reasonably high flow and she really works well with this setup. Her response to the fixed brush adapter was, ‘How can anyone work like this.’ Tried to sell it to her on the basis of it making you exercise more but she turned her nose up at that idea. ?

For reference, we use the angled Quik Loc swivel below. The reason I like it is that we can swap over brushes quickly should we need to and also the swivel action feels better being tight to the back of the brush instead of a couple inches back from the brush.

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My daughter is doing some work with me now. Because I use 100 degree fans and a swivel, that’s what I’ve been training her with. Yesterday we spent some time trying fixed brush adapters, 50 degree fans and 2mm pencils. I want her to find what works best for her rather than me telling her what to use. I explained the pros and cons of each device. We also tried different flow rates. 

So far the upshot is that she prefers the swivel adapter, 100 degree fans and reasonably high flow and she really works well with this setup. Her response to the fixed brush adapter was, ‘How can anyone work like this.’ Tried to sell it to her on the basis of it making you exercise more but she turned her nose up at that idea. ?

For reference, we use the angled Quik Loc swivel below. The reason I like it is that we can swap over brushes quickly should we need to and also the swivel action feels better being tight to the back of the brush instead of a couple inches back from the brush.

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Not used this type of swivel, I use the quick low one and like it. I do prefer the shorter gooseneck to the long version I must say. How do you mean it’s quicker to change the brush? Isn’t it the same, you just disconnect the see through brush pipes and the bit in your picture, or am I missing something. How’s the valve going or are you back to a univalve? 

 
Not used this type of swivel, I use the quick low one and like it. I do prefer the shorter gooseneck to the long version I must say. How do you mean it’s quicker to change the brush? Isn’t it the same, you just disconnect the see through brush pipes and the bit in your picture, or am I missing something. How’s the valve going or are you back to a univalve? 
Your right! I’d forgotten there were two types of quick-loq swivel. I think the other reason I swapped to this type was so I could swap between my fixed adapter soffit and fascia brush and the swivel adapter brush I use for windows without having to change the gooseneck as well, which is a pain when you have a Univalve fitted.
 

The one I use fits to this gooseneck

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As for the gooseneck valve, I’m still using it. I want to give it a fair trial. So far I’m really liking it even with the swivel. I’ve got a spare gooseneck with a univalve fitted ready to drop in if I come across a job where it won’t work.

I have to be honest, I thought the slogan, ‘Control is not letting go’ sounded like a bit a bit of a snipe at the Univalve when I first heard it. In reality though, when turning off the Univalve, although you do let go with one hand, the pole is usually resting on the ledge or window so you don’t really lose control.

However, now I’m getting used to the gooseneck valve, I do feel like I have better control over the pole.

 
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Your right! I’d forgotten there were two types of quick-loq swivel. I think the other reason I swapped to this type was so I could swap between my fixed adapter soffit and fascia brush and the swivel adapter brush I use for windows without having to change the gooseneck as well, which is a pain when you have a Univalve fitted.
 

The one I use fits to this gooseneck

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As for the gooseneck valve, I’m still using it. I want to give it a fair trial. So far I’m really liking it even with the swivel. I’ve got a spare gooseneck with a univalve fitted ready to drop in if I come across a job where it won’t work.

I have to be honest, I thought the slogan, ‘Control is not letting go’ sounded like a bit a bit of a snipe at the Univalve when I first heard it. In reality though, when turning off the Univalve, although you do let go with one hand, the pole is usually resting on the ledge or window so you don’t really lose control.

However, now I’m getting used to the gooseneck valve, I do feel like I have better control over the pole.
I understand so the gooseneck in your picture is the fixed, so you add to that. When I swapped out my gooseneck I did it via the orange pole hose, then swapped it over, 

Glad the valve is working ok. I haven’t used one but I thought it looked a little awkward so didn’t consider ordering one. Spent too much recently need to use what I’ve bought now and stop looking?

 
I understand so the gooseneck in your picture is the fixed, so you add to that. When I swapped out my gooseneck I did it via the orange pole hose, then swapped it over, 

Glad the valve is working ok. I haven’t used one but I thought it looked a little awkward so didn’t consider ordering one. Spent too much recently need to use what I’ve bought now and stop looking?
Yeah, you then either add the swivel adapter or the fixed one depending on what you want to use without changing the actual gooseneck. 

The gooseneck valve is odd to use at first because you default to tugging on the hose and wonder why it’s not working ?, if you’re used to a Univalve that is.

Using it with a swivel you need to get the tension right on the valve, but it’s easily adjusted with a thumbscrew and needs to be a little tighter than the swivel tension. It’s then about brush placement when you turn it on and off. Once you have it figured out it works well 

 
ap between my fixed adapter soffit and fascia brush and the swivel adapter brush I use for windows without having to change the gooseneck as well, which is a pain when you have a Univalve fitted.
Why is it a pain where is the univalve situated please,because iam looking to buy my first gardiner slx 18 thanks

 
Hi Jango, as promised, a photo of my pipe cutters. A bit late, sorry, I only just got the van back. All good, wheel bearings fine.

I've photo'd our most frequently used tools, from left to right, more or less in order of frequency of use. The pump is for an occasional top up on the trolley wheels. The drill driver is for the occasional adjustment of customers gate latches. We carry other tools : a set of combination spanners mounted on on the side of the van for instance. We carry duct tape, PTFE tape, Gorilla glue, Jubilee clips, Hozelock fittings. I forgot to include the tds meter in the photo. I was always going to forget something. ?View attachment 20954
Safe cracker in a former life ?

 
Why is it a pain where is the univalve situated please,because iam looking to buy my first gardiner slx 18 thanks
In order to operate a univalve the hose has to be clamped above the gooseneck. The original clamps were difficult to remove if you wanted to swap over a gooseneck on the fly. There are now however, releasable clamps available so this is no longer an issue

We use the sill brushes from gardiner. Just ordered a couple of gardiners new flocked sill brushes, reviews are great has anyone personally tried them? Very sad but I'm quite excited to try them out 
I use them. They are great, especially on leaded work

 
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In order to operate a univalve the hose has to be clamped above the gooseneck. The original clamps were difficult to remove if you wanted to swap over a gooseneck on the fly. There are now however, releasable clamps available so this is no longer an issue

I use them. They are great, especially on leaded work
what are they like,is it like the clamp that comes with exceed hoseless kit?and where can I get them please.Thanks

Very sad but I'm quite excited to try them out
So am i

 
what are they like,is it like the clamp that comes with exceed hoseless kit?and where can I get them please.Thanks

So am i
They are excellent. Easy to release and adjust. They are made and supplied by Skxawng, who is sometimes on the forum. I can't remember what they're called. I suggest you do a search on his name in the search bar. Someone else may have more info on how to contact him.

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Hi again everyone,

After a lot of feedback from you all I’ve decided to get myself a SLX 22 to replace my old second hand CLX 27 as my everyday pole. I already have the swivel gooseneck and univalve. 

I get the option to choose a brush when I get the SLX at the end of this month. 

My question is what is your go to brush? 

I currently have a 24cm medium soft Gardiner sill brush, a universal medium soft sill brush and I think it’s a medium soft super-lite brush that came with the CLX. 

As an all rounder after looking at the Gardiner brush guide I’m leaning towards the ultimate 35cm DuPont hybrid medium soft.

Will a 35cm speed up my work, or will the added weight of the brush make it irrelevant?

Thanks again 
The ultimate 35cm is a fantastic brush and has definitely helped speed up my work .

I would never go back to a small brush now.

A swivel is a must though IMHO.

 
Was doing a job today,brown upvc,i alwaays have trouble with spotting(well mostly) on thease types of frame.I think  white upvc frames should be made compulsory especialy the modern upvc  with the minimal ruber usage.I dont have ANY trouble with this type of frame.Also thease modern grey anodized frames  give me trouble.So today ithought maybe its my brush.I like my superlite that i was given,it works a treat on white pvc ,but maybe a brush with a bit more scrub would be better.The ultimate medium soft is descibed as such.Thank you.

 
I've tried a few brushes over time. Non Gardiner's I've had are WCW Phantom, Xline DuPont, Streamlines Ova8 brush. Gardiner's ones I've tried are SuperLight, Universal, Extreme, Ultimate. All with varying mixtures of bristles from medium mixed, to stiff, to DuPont, to Flocked to Hybrid.  I must admit the new Tapertec inner bristles are brilliant (please @Alex Gardiner put them on the extreme medium/soft sill brush ?).

I've also tried varying degrees of ways to rinse, jets, fans, rinse bars etc.

I try and have a few different brushes to cater for different jobs. Currently my go to brushes are the extreme sill brush, or the ultimate Dupont tapertec. I also have an ultimate Dupont with fibre inner bristles, a universal medium soft for PVC work and a streamline brush I never use ? next investment is a Supreme which I've never tried but they sound good for Georgian Panes, and a 35 cm brush for large panes. I do like a selection tbh ? 

I'm also loving the new jet capsules and I've just ordered nearly a full set of each one to try out lol

I'm terrible for wanting to try everything ?

 
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I've tried a few brushes over time. Non Gardiner's I've had are WCW Phantom, Xline DuPont, Streamlines Ova8 brush. Gardiner's ones I've tried are SuperLight, Universal, Extreme, Ultimate. All with varying mixtures of bristles from medium mixed, to stiff, to DuPont, to Flocked to Hybrid.  I must admit the new Tapertec inner bristles are brilliant (please @Alex Gardiner put them on the extreme medium/soft sill brush ?).

I've also tried varying degrees of ways to rinse, jets, fans, rinse bars etc.

I try and have a few different brushes to cater for different jobs. Currently my go to brushes are the extreme sill brush, or the ultimate Dupont tapertec. I also have an ultimate Dupont with fibre inner bristles, a universal medium soft for PVC work and a streamline brush I never use ? next investment is a Supreme which I've never tried but they sound good for Georgian Panes, and a 35 cm brush for large panes. I do like a selection tbh ? 

I'm also loving the new jet capsules and I've just ordered nearly a full set of each one to try out lol

I'm terrible for wanting to try everything ?
It must cost you a fortune trying everything out.

I only use a 35cm brush and they are brilliant. 

Let us know how you get on with the jet capsules, be interesting to know.

Im trying out a 35cm extreme today for the first time but haven't made my mind up yet.

 
I’ve just purchased the Gardiner supreme DuPont tapertec hybrid. Hopefully arriving tomorrow. Looking forward to trying this out, heard good things about it. I tried the universal 35mm but I couldn’t get on with the shorter bristles. My go to at the minute has been the medium soft sill brush. 

 

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