What is your go to brush?

[Jango]

Can you through some more light please,on what  is meant by"a fast brush","good scrubing brush" as described in Gariners brush guide. With regards to the later, I did a job yesterday,that I did for the first time 18mnths ago yesterday I did it again for the 2nd time(I know ,I know ,don't say anything).I used my super light(small) Tne the windows came up fine,the lady had cleaned the downstairs at the back recently anyway Jobsagood,n (thank you Green Pro)There was however some paint on the upstairs window looked like bird poo from the ground,so got the ladders out,and blade,ed it off,but I noticed that the small top window,(now that I was up close)still dirty,the s/light hadn't managed to do a good enough job.Thease windows of course get the dirtiest especialy after 18mnths, it realy gets grimed in, so leather and scrim, no problem.Cheers.

I cleaned two windows yesterday, that had had terrible ivy growing all over the pvc. (Who is their right mind does this) I used screwfix degreaser mixed at 10-1. Sprayed it on and the glass as it was full of kak from the old ivy and I was surprised myself how well it performed. Better than getting ladders out. ?

 

[Jango]

Today for the first time I used the extreme sill brush with a swivel and the close coupled connection, I loved it, so this is my new go to brush. 
will always use flocked on leaded though. 

 

[Davy G]

Today for the first time I used the extreme sill brush with a swivel and the close coupled connection, I loved it, so this is my new go to brush. 
will always use flocked on leaded though. 

I use the Extreme Sill Brush with a swivel.  I also love it. I use the same brush for leaded with no issues. I'm very light on the cleaning pressure. Not yet had the opportunity to try the close coupled connections. I'll be ordering some very soon.

 

[Marko067]

Today for the first time I used the extreme sill brush with a swivel and the close coupled connection, I loved it, so this is my new go to brush. 
will always use flocked on leaded though. 

I love this combo as well

I put off getting the close coupled hose set as I use a swivel and it didn't look as if the two would work together. However, my jet capsules kept coming apart so decided to give it a go. Wish I'd done it sooner is all I can say. Solved the capsules coming apart problem and works really well with the swivel.

Different topic I know, but I'm now also using Gardiners gooseneck valve together with the swivel and that too is working very well. So far anyways. It's much better than the original one.

 

[Den]

I love this combo as well

I put off getting the close coupled hose set as I use a swivel and it didn't look as if the two would work together. However, my jet capsules kept coming apart so decided to give it a go. Wish I'd done it sooner is all I can say. Solved the capsules coming apart problem and works really well with the swivel.

Different topic I know, but I'm now also using Gardiners gooseneck valve together with the swivel and that too is working very well. So far anyways. It's much better than the original one.

Will follow your progress with the Gardiner swivel/valve combo  as I have noticed the univalve does last as long as they used too I have taken apart my univalve on a couple of poles and re greased them exceed have now started using inferior cheap springs that now goes rusty and half the thickness this was pointed out on the other forum. 

 

[Jango]

I use the Extreme Sill Brush with a swivel.  I also love it. I use the same brush for leaded with no issues. I'm very light on the cleaning pressure. Not yet had the opportunity to try the close coupled connections. I'll be ordering some very soon.

Hey does this mean I’ll soon be wearing that hat and experiencing the fizz. ?I’ve order them today 100 degree like you said. The capsule pencils are better than original though. With the close coupling it’s better, doesn’t get caught on handles etc. You’ll love it, never thought I could get so happy about work toys. 

 

[Jango]

I love this combo as well

I put off getting the close coupled hose set as I use a swivel and it didn't look as if the two would work together. However, my jet capsules kept coming apart so decided to give it a go. Wish I'd done it sooner is all I can say. Solved the capsules coming apart problem and works really well with the swivel.

Different topic I know, but I'm now also using Gardiners gooseneck valve together with the swivel and that too is working very well. So far anyways. It's much better than the original one.

It’s with your recommendation I went for the close coupled. Really like it. 
so the gooseneck valve is this the one they have now on their site, or are you trying out a sample of a new one soon to be released? Look forward to your review. 

 

[Davy G]

Hey does this mean I’ll soon be wearing that hat and experiencing the fizz. ?I’ve order them today 100 degree like you said. The capsule pencils are better than original though. With the close coupling it’s better, doesn’t get caught on handles etc. You’ll love it, never thought I could get so happy about work toys. 

Yeah! I reckon you'll be entitled to wear the hat. But you need to earn it by giving them a proper chance. On or very close to the window the whole time. Take control. Rinse on the glass.

Too many people don't. I think some folk are frightened by the sound they make when the settings are right. A sound about the same as a firework sparkler (bless) . My son and I love the sound. I've read posts on another forum that had me chuckling:

Terrifying noise. Women and children panicking. Window cleaners stampeding. Makes me laugh when we're supposed to be rough, tough hairy a.. ed macho types. ?

 

[Jango]

Yeah! I reckon you'll be entitled to wear the hat. But you need to earn it by giving them a proper chance. On or very close to the window the whole time. Take control. Rinse on the glass.

Too many people don't. I think some folk are frightened by the sound they make when the settings are right. A sound about the same as a firework sparkler (bless) . My son and I love the sound. I've read posts on another forum that had me chuckling:

Terrifying noise. Women and children panicking. Window cleaners stampeding. Makes me laugh when we're supposed to be hairy a.. ed macho types. ?

I’m going to try them, I always feel I have to rinse off the glass, in case of any last bits. But I think that’s because I have the 50 degree old style in my flocked brush. In my new brush they could be very good. I’ll see how I get on, I have a friend who uses the old style 100 degree so I have heard the fizz. 

 

[Davy G]

I’m going to try them, I always feel I have to rinse off the glass, in case of any last bits. But I think that’s because I have the 50 degree old style in my flocked brush. In my new brush they could be very good. I’ll see how I get on, I have a friend who uses the old style 100 degree so I have heard the fizz. 

They need the room in the bristles for the jets to give the full width fan pattern without the bristles impeding. If you use a flocked brush you may need to trim a channel near the jets. I've never used a flocked brush only ever a monofil.

 

[Jango]

They need the room in the bristles for the jets to give the full width fan pattern without the bristles impeding. If you use a flocked brush you may need to trim a channel neer the jets. I've never used a flocked brush only ever a monofil.

I do have channel near the jets. I like the combo. But now it’s easy to swap out the capsules you can try easier. 

 

[Marko067]

It’s with your recommendation I went for the close coupled. Really like it. 
so the gooseneck valve is this the one they have now on their site, or are you trying out a sample of a new one soon to be released? Look forward to your review. 

Yes, it’s the one on the site at present. Much better than its predecessor. 

The part that does the job is a cartridge inside, instead of the main body of the unit like the first one. The whole unit seems much better than the first one. 

If you’re using a fixed adapter on your brush you’ll have no problem with it. The swivel however, requires a little more thought. You have to make sure that the axes of the swivel and the gooseneck valve are on a different plane when turning it on and off. If they’re even close you’ll have fun with a capital ‘f’. I find it helpful to rest the brush on the window ledge rather than the window to turn it on when using the swivel. Turning it off comes naturally when cleaning the ledge.

For me, I’ve managed to make it work and I can see I may have found a new favourite tap for general maintenance cleans. Juliet rails may present a challenge but I haven’t got to any of mine yet. Not that I have that many. I love the fact that you don’t have to take a hand off the pole to operate it.

If I do make it my everyday tap, I’ll likely keep a univalve and gooseneck setup ready to drop in the pole should I need it for an awkward job.

 

[Den]

Yes, it’s the one on the site at present. Much better than its predecessor. 

The part that does the job is a cartridge inside, instead of the main body of the unit like the first one. The whole unit seems much better than the first one. 

If you’re using a fixed adapter on your brush you’ll have no problem with it. The swivel however, requires a little more thought. You have to make sure that the axes of the swivel and the gooseneck valve are on a different plane when turning it on and off. If they’re even close you’ll have fun with a capital ‘f’. I find it helpful to rest the brush on the window ledge rather than the window to turn it on when using the swivel. Turning it off comes naturally when cleaning the ledge.

For me, I’ve managed to make it work and I can see I may have found a new favourite tap for general maintenance cleans. Juliet rails may present a challenge but I haven’t got to any of mine yet. Not that I have that many. I love the fact that you don’t have to take a hand off the pole to operate it.

If I do make it my everyday tap, I’ll likely keep a univalve and gooseneck setup ready to drop in the pole should I need it for an awkward job.

Just read on gardiner site not compatible with the super scraper that's a bummer as I have the scraper on all my poles.

 

[Jango]

Yes, it’s the one on the site at present. Much better than its predecessor. 

The part that does the job is a cartridge inside, instead of the main body of the unit like the first one. The whole unit seems much better than the first one. 

If you’re using a fixed adapter on your brush you’ll have no problem with it. The swivel however, requires a little more thought. You have to make sure that the axes of the swivel and the gooseneck valve are on a different plane when turning it on and off. If they’re even close you’ll have fun with a capital ‘f’. I find it helpful to rest the brush on the window ledge rather than the window to turn it on when using the swivel. Turning it off comes naturally when cleaning the ledge.

For me, I’ve managed to make it work and I can see I may have found a new favourite tap for general maintenance cleans. Juliet rails may present a challenge but I haven’t got to any of mine yet. Not that I have that many. I love the fact that you don’t have to take a hand off the pole to operate it.

If I do make it my everyday tap, I’ll likely keep a univalve and gooseneck setup ready to drop in the pole should I need it for an awkward job.

Sounds like it’s working for you. Keep us updated. 
the univalves are not lasting long, I too have had mine apart like Den. Expensive really for how long they last, cheaper parts as well, looks like we need an alternative, the idea is good though and the best I have. A friend told me the old aqua adaptors were good, but I wouldn’t know, they got stopped a long time ago. 

 

[Diamond geezer]

experiencing the fizz.

let me in guys please,i think your talking about the new 100 degree jets,ive never used fans in a brush,but I have used a double over brush spray turned sideways to create an overhead rinse bar effect What are the proes then thanks

 

[scottish cleaning service]

Just read on gardiner site not compatible with the super scraper that's a bummer as I have the scraper on all my poles.

I'm getting shot of my scraper because it gets caught in the rails I have to go through. Moving my white scraper pads to the ends of my brush, not sure how I will fix them on, maybe fit a bolt and 2 big washers.

 

[Davy G]

let me in guys please,i think your talking about the new 100 degree jets,ive never used fans in a brush,but I have used a double over brush spray turned sideways to create an overhead rinse bar effect What are the proes then thanks

Come on in Diamond. The first round is on you. Mine's a pint of Tanglefoot, please.  And a packet of salted peanuts, thanks. ?

We don't find any difference in the effects of the old black ones in comparison to the new capsules. They are different in design and manufacture.

I think you ought to read some of the recent in-depth discussions on the subject of fan jets versus pencil jets.

I personally don't see the sense of pencil jets or rinse bars when the 100 degree fan jets fill the full width of the brush perfectly. Like I say, read the conversations with an open mind, and see what conclusions you draw. ?

 

[scottish cleaning service]

I fitted the close coupled connections weeks ago and haven't looked back. Sometimes it doesn't cost much but makes life a lot easier. I will give anything a try just to pacify my curiosity. 

 

[Marko067]

Sounds like it’s working for you. Keep us updated. 
the univalves are not lasting long, I too have had mine apart like Den. Expensive really for how long they last, cheaper parts as well, looks like we need an alternative, the idea is good though and the best I have. A friend told me the old aqua adaptors were good, but I wouldn’t know, they got stopped a long time ago. 

It’s a real shame the way the univalve seems to have gone. I’ve still got the original three I bought at the start. Two leak a little but not to the point of being unusable and one is still dry. 
Obviously it remains to be seen how long the gooseneck valve will last.

I had my first challenge today with it as I had a soffit and fascia clean to do. First problem encountered was how to turn it on as I couldn’t turn it on resting the brush on the fascia board. (Remember I’m using a swivel. If you use a fixed adapter on your brush this might not be an issue) I overcame this by dropping the brush to the upstairs window ledge, turning it on and then using the pinched hose method to control the flow whilst working on the fascia and soffit boards.

I have also used a little silicone grease to smooth out the twist action. I will see how that goes tomorrow.

Another positive to the ‘G’Valve is that when you catch the hose or tread on it you don’t get that irritating squirt of water. I’ve accidentally showered a couple of my customers due to this.

 

[Marko067]

let me in guys please,i think your talking about the new 100 degree jets,ive never used fans in a brush,but I have used a double over brush spray turned sideways to create an overhead rinse bar effect What are the proes then thanks

One benefit to installing them in the brush is it makes it easier to control the spray. When mounted above the brush and rinsing near vents it’s difficult to stop water going up the vent. Likewise when washing over frames the spray can end up all up the brickwork above which then runs down onto the frame and windows. However, with the jets in the brush, when rinsing close to a vent I don’t lift the brush right off the glass. I just lift the pressure off so that the top bristles are still in contact with the glass effectively keeping the water under the brush. Once you’ve moved a few inches down you can lift the brush just off the glass to continue the rinse if you want to. The key is not to lift the brush more than a couple of inches off the glass when rinsing or the rinse will become ineffective.

This is only my experience of course and I respect the views of others who may have a different view to me

 

[Davy G]

One benefit to installing them in the brush is it makes it easier to control the spray. When mounted above the brush and rinsing near vents it’s difficult to stop water going up the vent. Likewise when washing over frames the spray can end up all up the brickwork above which then runs down onto the frame and windows. However, with the jets in the brush, when rinsing close to a vent I don’t lift the brush right off the glass. I just lift the pressure off so that the top bristles are still in contact with the glass effectively keeping the water under the brush. Once you’ve moved a few inches down you can lift the brush just off the glass to continue the rinse if you want to. The key is not to lift the brush more than a couple of inches off the glass when rinsing or the rinse will become ineffective.

This is only my experience of course and I respect the views of others who may have a different view to me

That's exactly it Mark. You've studied your craft and thought it through thoroughly and you've explained it very well. I've reached precisely the same conclusions. There's no need to over complicate like some folk do.