Teesside Window Cleaner passed away in accident

[Yogi1872]

I also feel bad for speculating but it feels unethical to me to try and sell a business just days after an employee had died without mentioning it at all to potential buyers, he commented today saying that vans would be sold etc - at the very least I'd like to think I would hold off on the sale...

That said, while I was digging I also found that his company cleaned windows that belonged to another window cleaner and posted a slip requesting payment as though the customer was theirs, so his morals are questionable

I'm assuming the road is open now so the police have investigated and have a good idea of what's happened. He would surley have been pulled by now. If there was anything dodgy about the van I'm sure the other workers would be getting it out there too. It will be reported online somewhere.

 

[Pjj]

I also feel bad for speculating but it feels unethical to me to try and sell a business just days after an employee had died without mentioning it at all to potential buyers, he commented today saying that vans would be sold etc - at the very least I'd like to think I would hold off on the sale...

That said, while I was digging I also found that his company cleaned windows that belonged to another window cleaner and posted a slip requesting payment as though the customer was theirs, so his morals are questionable

Yes I don’t see how he could sell a business with this situation on going if I was a potential buyer I certainly wouldn’t buy it now

 

[Pjj]

I'm assuming the road is open now so the police have investigated and have a good idea of what's happened. He would surley have been pulled by now. If there was anything dodgy about the van I'm sure the other workers would be getting it out there too. It will be reported online somewhere.

In any fatal collision the vehicle will be gone over with a fine tooth comb by the police and VOSA , to astatine any contributing factors to the accident , it could be driver error by either vehicle or a mechanical failure , ime guessing it will all come out in time at the latest in the coroners court .

 

[Deleted member 5762]

If it’s the same company then yes they are definitely selling work. It’s on a couple of the facebook groups today and he’s getting various criticisms about the price of the work he’s selling off.

 

[johnny bravo]

ive looked and cant see it for sale

 

[JohnDoeWindows]

@johnny bravo

 

[johnny bravo]

OK why give up £20000 a month work

 

[Pjj]

OK why give up £20000 a month work

He said he has other business opportunities so wants a change ?..

 

[Part Timer]

Not exactly the same but a warning for those that use ladders for the conny roof cleans and awkward windows ?

City council fined after school caretaker dies | HSE Media Centre

press.hse.gov.uk

 

[Pjj]

Not exactly the same but a warning for those that use ladders for the conny roof cleans and awkward windows ?

City council fined after school caretaker dies | HSE Media Centre

press.hse.gov.uk

Exactly this is why you cannot employ and have staff going down the street using ladders on most jobs , also shows how anyone can be held responsible if things go badly wrong . Good post , what happened is very sad but it’s good to highlight stuff like this as a warning to one’s who think they are invincible and above the law or dont have a clue about H&S .

 

[scottish cleaning service]

This could lead to a corporate manslaughter charge.

 

[RickyG]

Not exactly the same but a warning for those that use ladders for the conny roof cleans and awkward windows ?

City council fined after school caretaker dies | HSE Media Centre

press.hse.gov.uk

that's sad poor old boy trying to keep on top of things, a private school where I do a bit doesn't allow step ladders but they do hire in some unusual work platforms that are basically step ladders with handrails & a guard rail

 

[Mattymarske]

Notices found - Enforcement notices public

This site provides the detail of HSE prosecutions resulting in a successful conviction within the last 5 years.

resources.hse.gov.uk

 

[Pjj]

Notices found - Enforcement notices public

This site provides the detail of HSE prosecutions resulting in a successful conviction within the last 5 years.

resources.hse.gov.uk

Think that means all vehicles are immediately taken off the road not good reading for any business

 

[Iron Giant]

Notices found - Enforcement notices public

This site provides the detail of HSE prosecutions resulting in a successful conviction within the last 5 years.

resources.hse.gov.uk

He was selling a van the other week on Facebook a citoren dispatch or similar

 

[Dave B]

Shows how important it is to have a secure load
I had to use one of my cars when my van died and even strapped the barrels down I had to use
25kg in a head on could be in effect over quarter of a tonne as it launches into your or worse still your passengers back
Not worth the risk

 

[JohnDoeWindows]

Am I the only one who finds it completely disingenuous that he's selling off his business without even mentioning what happened or the legal trouble he's in?

 

[spruce]

Am I the only one who finds it completely disingenuous that he's selling off his business without even mentioning what happened or the legal trouble he's in?

Some people believe they can do no wrong. When something does go wrong, it's a problem with the system. The system has failed them. They also tend to ignore advice, which he received plenty of from @Pjj over the years. I'm an old idiot - he doesn't like me.

When the inquest is finally opened, (it can take years), I wouldn't be a bit surprised to hear he is out of the country doing IT somewhere.
What type of IT? Maybe history will repeat itself.

Middlesbrough internet fraudster duped eBay sellers

AN INTERNET fraudster duped two eBay sellers by using hacked accounts to pay for goods with money belonging to someone else, a court heard.

www.thenorthernecho.co.uk

 

[Dave B]

Some people believe they can do no wrong. When something does go wrong, it's a problem with the system. The system has failed them. They also tend to ignore advice, which he received plenty of from @Pjj over the years. I'm an old idiot - he doesn't like me.

When the inquest is finally opened, (it can take years), I wouldn't be a bit surprised to hear he is out of the country doing IT somewhere.
What type of IT? Maybe history will repeat itself.

Middlesbrough internet fraudster duped eBay sellers

AN INTERNET fraudster duped two eBay sellers by using hacked accounts to pay for goods with money belonging to someone else, a court heard.

www.thenorthernecho.co.uk

That doesn’t surprise me in the least
Shady character
His attitude is the reason I banned him twice also
Some people have no scruples

Also I thought the echo was a south coast paper
Learn something new everyday

 

[Pjj]

Some people believe they can do no wrong. When something does go wrong, it's a problem with the system. The system has failed them. They also tend to ignore advice, which he received plenty of from @Pjj over the years. I'm an old idiot - he doesn't like me.

When the inquest is finally opened, (it can take years), I wouldn't be a bit surprised to hear he is out of the country doing IT somewhere.
What type of IT? Maybe history will repeat itself.

Middlesbrough internet fraudster duped eBay sellers

AN INTERNET fraudster duped two eBay sellers by using hacked accounts to pay for goods with money belonging to someone else, a court heard.

www.thenorthernecho.co.uk

Unfortunately over 36 years in the fire service I have come across this type of accident many times , without judging on this particular situation as I don’t have all the relevant information but a general rule of thumb with this type of thing it is corporate manslaughter which is either a very heavy fine or imprisonment or both , let’s hope that justice is done in this particular case .

 

[Cghwindowcleaning]

He is probably looking at a very , very hefty fine.I’ve seen window cleaning companies get fines before even when no accident has occurred..

His more than likely knows this and the fine will be 50k absolute minimum But more likely 100k plus to be realistic.This will no doubt send him bankrupt so his trying to offload it all before.

The fact the took the whole fleet of the road means there taking it seriously so they may make an example of him.