Traditional v Wfp

[Solarpanelcleanington]

Some trad cleaners miss windows over conservatories and extensions, see it all the time. They always miss velux and rooflights too. Half a job...........

 

[Guest]

Some trad cleaners miss windows over conservatories and extensions, see it all the time. They always miss velux and rooflights too. Half a job...........

Got to love half a job

 

[steve garwood]

Traditional all the way!

Fine if you want to earn good money.

I prefer to earn excellent money /emoticons/wink.png

 

[C Rose Cleaning Services]

I've taken on lots of work from trad cleaners because of the pitfalls of that method. I.e breaking guttering from resting ladders, squashing plants, holes in lawn, too much noise from banging about and waking up shift workers etc etc (all the things I was more than aware of when I cleaned trad for 11 years).

As with everything in life, not one given method is perfect. I've also taken on WFP from non believers or those who have bad experiences.

Which ever you choose, do it properly and you won't be the one they complain about.

 

[crystal vision]

My only complaint with wfp is sills upstairs can sometimes be hit and miss it in shady places turning green . And traditional you can't get you cloth in the nitty bit where wfp rinses away . Health n safety wfp wins hands down .I'm 30 odd years in and legs r feeling it now where as the 21st century boys (wfp) shouldn't have this problem

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[Clisty1989]

Each as there pros and cons, but so's everything. I believe if you can do both your laughing. For example, I'd wfp a 3 storey house, over Conny's etc, but would rather trad a bungalow, shop front, or houses with 1 or 2 easy upstairs windows. Also depends on my mood. Good for breaking up the day, equally as good IMO, as long as its done properly

 

[Eddie dragon]

Definitely should know how to trad even if wfp. Some properties are better done trad. I do one barn conversion trad. As there is a big dirty untreated strip of wood between top openers, and the main big windows.

I did do six bungalows trad until I forgot my little steps one day, so did wfp. All of the old lady's loved that I didn't step on the flower beds. So asked to be swapped over. Only thing I don't like about trad is ladders. I won't personally go above first floor. If green decking or sloping ground no ladder option is given. Wfp or nothing. Benefit of site visits to quote. You see and discuss all options with clients. I have done three stories with wfp rest trad now full wfp. Bad experience with previous wfp guy so Wonted traditional. No issue when I said yes but third floor is wfp only for safety reasons. Long as you do a good job both have there place.

 

[Dave B]

My only complaint with wfp is sills upstairs can sometimes be hit and miss it in shady places turning green . And traditional you can't get you cloth in the nitty bit where wfp rinses away . Health n safety wfp wins hands down .I'm 30 odd years in and legs r feeling it now where as the 21st century boys (wfp) shouldn't have this problem

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Just wrecked rotator cuffs and other shoulder issues lol

 

[Iron Giant]

All of the previous already mentioned any job not done properly will yield poor results !!

I had one guy come up to me saying he needed a window cleaner but was sceptical about wfp i quickly explained about been thorough etc and he give me the go ahead but said he didn't want a regular clean until he had seen the windows dry after I was done . 4 weeks later when i was back in his street he came down the road singing my praises and paid me 5 months in advance and continues to pay up front .

Typically I only trad insides apart from one exception a kids nursery were I have to go through the building to access the rear windows so telescopic ladder and trad gear I did 8 years trad so know both techniques extremely well and how each should be done properly .

 

[Iron Giant]

I've been collecting new customers over the last few days and a lot of them already have a windy but they all tend to mention that there not happy with this wfp method because it leaves marks and they perfered the "old fashioned way"...
So there happy I've come along...

What do you think causes this wfp issue??

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I used to take work off tradders now I just take work of shoddy non professional window cleaners /emoticons/biggrin.png

 

[Hollie2021]

I used to take work off tradders now I just take work of shoddy non professional window cleaners /emoticons/biggrin.png

I do both trad & WFP every day , whatever the custy wants they get , it's them that are paying for the clean.

If I can get away with a pole clean I take it , if not I just bump it off with the blade , it's all in a day's work for me .

I don't try to explain this and that just get it done and draw the readies LOL .

Cheers guys .

Glenn .

 

[Gerry Scrimshaw]

Always try to do a thorough job on first cleans but I also tell them about the possibility of the odd drip and explain why that might happen. Only been called back twice I think. I personally dry all top frames off with a towel on first cleans then rinse glass. But if it's a really bad window and you happen to be working in heavy wind or rain there is a chance it won't be percent.
As for trad I can't see any reason at all to choose it over wfp other than its cheaper?

I've got a couple of houses that have really old pvc frames that leech a white pigment, so have to wash frames thoroughly and wipe dry the ones I can reach, but custie is aware of problem and is ok.

Also found some wall paint finishes splash pigment onto glass from the rain. Got one estate where they are all like that until they have it repainted. Very satisfying to shine them up.

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[rafawindowcleaning]

My only complaint with wfp is sills upstairs can sometimes be hit and miss it in shady places turning green . And traditional you can't get you cloth in the nitty bit where wfp rinses away . Health n safety wfp wins hands down .I'm 30 odd years in and legs r feeling it now where as the 21st century boys (wfp) shouldn't have this problem

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Get up th3 ladder on the first clean and get them sills clean. After that wfp is enough to maintain them

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[crystal vision]

Get up th3 ladder on the first clean and get them sills clean. After that wfp is enough to maintain them
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It really isn't if the sun don't hit certain sides of house water sits on will as will don't always have a run off

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[steve garwood]

It really isn't if the sun don't hit certain sides of house water sits on will as will don't always have a run off
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Yes it is. If your technique is correct and your water is pure, sills will not be a problem. Been wfp nearly ten years and never had a customer moan about sills.

 

[Dave B]

I've got a couple of houses that have really old pvc frames that leech a white pigment, so have to wash frames thoroughly and wipe dry the ones I can reach, but custie is aware of problem and is ok.
Also found some wall paint finishes splash pigment onto glass from the rain. Got one estate where they are all like that until they have it repainted. Very satisfying to shine them up.

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Those old frames give off white stuff due to oxidisation over time

Give them a spray of ubik or similar on your brush and scrub the hell out of them

After a while you will have scrubbed and rinsed it all off and not have a problem with them

 

[steve garwood]

Those old frames give off white stuff due to oxidisation over timeGive them a spray of ubik or similar on your brush and scrub the hell out of them

After a while you will have scrubbed and rinsed it all off and not have a problem with them

@daveyboy, just noticed your aviator. My phone is jank so cant zoom in on it properly. Is that the ministry of sound logo, and have you been there?

I went there a few years back when Pete tong was doing a set. Proper banging night. Came out of there at half six in the morning

 

[Dave B]

@daveyboy, just noticed your aviator. My phone is jank so cant zoom in on it properly. Is that the ministry of sound logo, and have you been there?I went there a few years back when Pete tong was doing a set. Proper banging night. Came out of there at half six in the morning

I used to rave all round london mate

Bagleys

Camden palace

Subterranea

Ground floor in ladbroke grove

We used to come out of these places when others were getting up for work..always getting funny looks bowling down Kenny high st at 7am off your nut while the dudes in suits are going to get the tube to work

That avatar is from the best night i ever had at the ministry

Awol (a way of life)

Back to back top drum n bass djs

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[steve garwood]

I used to rave all round london mateBagleys

Camden palace

Subterranea

Ground floor in ladbroke grove

We used to come out of these places when others were getting up for work..always getting funny looks bowling down Kenny high st at 7am off your nut while the dudes in suits are going to get the tube to work

That avatar is from the best night i ever had at the ministry

Awol (a way of life)

Back to back top drum n bass djs

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Another good club is starskey and hutch at the elephant and castle, just round the corner from the ministry

 

[Dave B]

Never been there but i used to go smimming at the elephant and castle as it was only 60p back in the day and had that bumpy slide in the pool

 

[steve garwood]

Never been there but i used to go smimming at the elephant and castle as it was only 60p back in the day and had that bumpy slide in the pool

That pool was the first in Britain to have a wave machine. By pure coincidence, I'm on the train now going to football and about to approach elephant and castle. A boring fact for you /emoticons/biggrin.png