Just to finish off on the 100% safe, for me 100% safe means I know that the only way I will hurt my self up a ladder is through an accident!
What sort of data, to start off I would say age and experience will fall very much on the Trad side as 10 years ago there weren't many WFP's
? so anyone that has had an accident is an idiot ? , sorry like, we like a good debate on here but I will happily shoot some one down you haven't cleaned a window in years and most likely not used a ladder on daily or even monthly basis for years yet you are now a competent ladder user and are gifted with something mystical that will ensure that you won't have an accident,
I always stay in the shallow end, poor swimmer and doggy paddle panic ain't good
I'd sooner drink more than go up a ladder, slightly more expensive and i can only fall off the carpet on a really heavy night
Ok so how do you comply with the HSE guidance about 3 points of contact with the ladder at all times whilst window cleaning ? It’s impossible to do and run a buisness working that way .
I think you started the whole debate with your own preconceived ideas. I suggest if you don't want to have people disagreeing with your out of date ideas you don't post argumentative posts.
its guidance, not a law
I didn't criticise, read it again. I only told you what I heard.
Moreover, 3 points of contact? easily
Because we all can and do clean trad from time to time and use ladders when it is absolutely necessary...
He doesn’t need advice he’s been cleaning Windows was it 12 weeks ?... ??? he’s an expert , those that have been doing this job for 20-30 years plus have no idear what they are talking about
Actually I did trad for 3 years 1997 - 2000, I set up my new round this week.
once again, I never slagged it off
Really, I think you need to remember what you posted.
Do you actually work like that ?? What about footing the ladder ? Do you tie it off for every window ?? Installing eye bolts etc ?.. ladders do have there place but not for working 8 hours a day cleaning windows , to quote the HSE , ladders may be used but if a safer alternative exists it must be used , there is no ambiguity. I have gone out to numerous falls from heights over the years , many didn’t survive the fall many that did weren’t in a position to ever work again and several could never walk again , when you can get a cheap wfp system that will do a far better job than trad I dont understand why ones risk there lives the way they do , I was trad for 10 years so know what Ime talking about , I have also been in the Fireservice for over 30 years and have used ladders for over 45 years but that doesn’t make them safe or prevent ones from having accidents , I understand you have to start somewhere but think about the consequences of a fall and being killed ,disabled etc would have on you and your family , and don’t try and tell people that have been doing this job for many years that they are wrong or afrade to use ladders .
