Wages for self employed Traditional window cleaners

[Youngs Windows]

We are Traditional window cleaners, i currently own a 2nd van and have 2 staff that are self employed, i pay them 33% each of the work they do in said van, I pay diesel and any other expenses.

Am I being too generous or not?

Tia

 

[Jango]

If you have two staff. You pay them 33%. They are not self employed. They are employed by you. 
Therefore you will have to pay them holiday pay etc. 
A self employed person has their own gear, van or car and their own work. 
It’s  far from legal what your doing. Check out the gov website. 

 

[Seriously clean 01]

What jango said you need to get advice on this as could end up in trouble 

 

[Dave78]

Try it as you are sub contracting them, they would need a company name and tax number.

also supply the van and they pay for fuel, insurance and tax.

 

[Youngs Windows]

I thought they would be classed as subcontractors, they invoice me for the work they've done, they are free to do their own work as and when they want.

Cheers though will look into it some more

They do have their own company name and tax number

 

[Neil.. Lancashire]

We are Traditional window cleaners, i currently own a 2nd van and have 2 staff that are self employed, i pay them 33% each of the work they do in said van, I pay diesel and any other expenses.

Am I being too generous or not?

Tia

His your van/ there the van signed up with your business name or there business name. Be very carful because you could end up owing a lot of money.

 

[Youngs Windows]

Oh!! Any advice on how I could change things up to operate properly much appreciated.

On average the 2 lads clean 300 a day on a good day, would I have to go down PAYE route then? Pay minimum wage with a bonus system? Is this my only option? 

 

[Part Timer]

Oh!! Any advice on how I could change things up to operate properly much appreciated.

On average the 2 lads clean 300 a day on a good day, would I have to go down PAYE route then? Pay minimum wage with a bonus system? Is this my only option? 

How many hours are they actually doing for you? If they're only doing 2 days a week and doing 3 of their own then you might be able to continue. Whatever the case is you really need to speak to someone that knows all the facts, and the rules, not just people, genuinely, offering their thoughts on the matter.

Your first post read like you supplied them everything, in this situation then you would have to employ them. Don't know how you'll get them down from a £150 a day to an hourly rate. 

 

[scottish cleaning service]

Sounds like you need a long conversation with your accountant or the taxman will be coming knocking in the future for a lot more tax, I'm afraid.

 

[Youngs Windows]

Thank you for the replies.

They don't get 150, they take a third each, so as a rule they would get 300 worth of work done, usually in 8hrs and take 100 each, of that as it stands they invoice me for it from their company to mine for labour charges and they then responsible for paying their own tax.

Some weeks they can do 5 days, some weeks 1 day.

Im going to take your advice and seek some proper help on this never my intention to be working on the dodge so to speak

 

[Neil.. Lancashire]

Thank you for the replies.

They don't get 150, they take a third each, so as a rule they would get 300 worth of work done, usually in 8hrs and take 100 each, of that as it stands they invoice me for it from their company to mine for labour charges and they then responsible for paying their own tax.

Some weeks they can do 5 days, some weeks 1 day.

Im going to take your advice and seek some proper help on this never my intention to be working on the dodge so to speak

All the info is on HMRC online.  Should be easy to get on the right side of it.